Acorn? Never Heard of Them!
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California: James O'Keefe exposes ACORN again for child prostitution... now in the Golden State
By now most everyone in America and around the worlds has seen the undercover videos of the Acorn Sting. And even though Acorn has been the subject of controversy throughout the campaign and to date, there are some who still continue to ignore the facts that this organization is embedded with Obama and many in congress.
The following are snippets of some, including the president, who continue to ignore facts, and continue to undermine the importance this has on our country, and the future of those in power.
From Michelle Malkin, Sunday morning:
STEPHANOPOULOS: But have your — have some of your allies made it easier for — handed your opponents some ammunition, like ACORN, for example…
OBAMA: Well, look, the — you know, I think that — are there folks in the Democratic camp or on the left who haven’t — haven’t always operated in ways that I’d appreciate? Absolutely.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Congress said they should cut off all funding for ACORN.
OBAMA: Is — is — is…
STEPHANOPOULOS: … all funding for ACORN. Are you for that?
OBAMA: Is that true on the other side, as well? Of course that’s true.
STEPHANOPOULOS: How about the funding for ACORN?
OBAMA: You know, it’s — frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely. I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Both the Senate and the House have voted to cut it off.
OBAMA: You know, what I know is, is that what I saw on that video was certainly inappropriate and deserves to be investigated.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you’re not committing to — to cut off the federal funding?
OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It’s not something I’m paying a lot of attention to.
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal today cut off state funding for the community activist group ACORN.
The New York Post quoted:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable.
“I don’t even know what they passed,” Pelosi told The Post yesterday. “What did they do? They defunded it?”
Even Charlie Gibson told a radio show Tuesday morning that he wasn't familiar with the story — and it might be "just one you leave to the cables
When the recent Acorn tapes were release none of the media covered it, none, zero.
Glenn Beck had this to say about the lack of coverage:
“You know, our Founding Fathers never intended on the media doing all of the work. They intended on us doing all of the work. And I just -- I mean, I -- the America I thought we had -- I mean, I always thought the media was by biased one way or another. But this isn't biased. This is complicit. This is criminal"
Editors note:
Who is benefiting by downplaying the Acorn scandal? Certainly those in the media who want to stay in the good graces of the White House, like ABC, CBS, MSNBC, who refuse any negative coverage. Those in Congress who are up for re-election in 2010, who without the help of Acorn may be out of a job soon. The President, who without Acorn would not have been elected, and since he consults with them prior to making any major decisions, needs The Acorn ‘team’ to do his dirty work.
Is this the America we want, where dirty politicians and their cronies control our country? What ever you political affiliation is, you have to search yourself and ask how much are you willing to accept before you realize that our country is being manipulated, and not for the better.
Go ahead and ask “Acorn who?”
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What is amazing is that with so much information so few want to admit the truth. Thanks for being my first visitor.
Obama,Obama,Obama,that guy is a walking talking cliche for Government corruption! What did all of those who voted for him do to this Country, I blame the ignorant voters!
TEX, they just weren't paying attention, and now they just choose to ignore. Good to see you.
Good Hub! Here's a brief comment: ACORN employees have obviously made some serious mistakes as have nearly all major organizations such as Wall Street banksters who have paid out billions in order to settle charges of illegal activities, health care insurance companies, oil companies, Congressmen and Senators all of whom deserve to have the boom lowered on them based on the results of investigations. I would not even try to defend the ACORN people in the videos. ACORN apparently isn't very careful about who they hire. However, I don't think its fair to conclude that the ACORN employees depicted in the videos were carrying out the ACORN policie any more than Congressman Vitter or Senator Larry Craig were carrying out Senate or House policies when patronizing hookers or soliciting sex in an airport men's room. The issue in both cases is how extensive such misbehavior is in the two organizations, ACORN and Congress. I don't pretend to have the facts on either organization.
Great article and right on. I have been reading about Acorn since before the elections. They purposefully falsified voter reigistrations and are finally being investigated in several states. ALL their funding should be cut. It's not where I want my tax dollers to go. People better vote carefully next year and get rid of all the good old boys. We need new congressmen that will adhere to the Constitution and stand up against Reid, Pelosi and their bunch.
I completely agree with your opinion. Beck got the goods on ACORN and they are full of corruption. I believe there are many corrupt groups like Acorn and we must root all of them out.
Unless we end all corruption we will never get our country back in the hands of the common folks. We must end political, financial, and big business corruption.
ACORN needs to change its name to Rotten Nut! You figure out the acronym!
Ralph, I understand that it may be unfair to judge a whole organization from a few bad apples, but this is becoming a pattern. Thank you for stopping in.
Pamela, If I had my way I would completely clean house, downsize and put term limits. Maybe in my next life. Acorn will never just go away, their branches lead everywhere. We have yet to see how far. Thank you for your comments.
Atil, I'm not quite sure what your silence means.
Tom, there has been some form of corruption since the begining of time, it will never end, but those who are making decisions for our country, and our welfare should really try to serve the people who elected them.
Patriot, they have changed to SEIU for one, and many others. Even if the all the corruption within the organization would surface, they would just go under, and surface in another name. Thank you for stopping in.
Well, as they say, where there's smoke there's probably fire.
I never heard of Acorn until recently. However, it strikes me as small potatoes compared to corruption in the banking, drug and health care insurance industries.
Ralph I started researching Acorn about 9 months ago, and all I can say is that just when you think you've reached the end of a branch, another emerges. They are involved in so many suspicious activity that I have become exhausted. That is why I like the way Beck puts things together, even in his wierd ways he has it right.
Nice hub Jib. What is Pelosi up to again? That lady needs to go bye bye! I hope the Californians have enough intestinal fortitude to get rid of her, which I don't think they do.
I just get a kick on how the lib dems threw Acorn under the buss and jumped on the band wagon to cover their bu%%&.
BO's buddies are going done slowly but surely.
Keep on hubbing!
Thanks Eovery, they aren't under the bus yet, they are still hiding behind the curtain, but at least it's a start.
Yes, Ralph it is small potatoes to YOU to grant eight billion dollars to an organization with 300 arrests among its members for election fraud and now these videos. This is an organization set up to "game" the system—in everything they do. WE can't excuse them by casting our eye towards Wall Street. Oh, sure I sinned—but so did those other guys! Gee Willikers.
Great Hub jib! :D
I was watching television this morning when Obama tried to evade the question regarding Acorn. You must have been taping it. You got the verbage exactly correct.
So happy that Acorn will probably not be doing the next census after all of this ruckus. Aren't you?
This deliberate play at ignorance is maddening. The President doesn't know what's going on? Nice try, Mr. President, you know, but it doesn't bother you at all. The same is true of the Democrats in Congress. Talk about a "vast government conspiracy", wow this crew has brought new meaning to that expression.
James, Thank you for stopping in. There are those who want to deflect the magnitude of Acorn by bringing up banks etc, it still not acceptable no matter who is corrupt. :)
Peggy, It seems eaier to prove a point if the words come directly from the horses mouth. Thanks.
POP amazing isn't it, they don't know what's in the Health bill, they know nothing of Van Jones, and nothing of Acorn. What do they know and why are we paying them? Thanks for breakfast.
Well I guess the majority of the voters wanted a change...be careful what yo wish for,changes arent always welcomed.
BretC, I just read a huge article on the corruption of SEIU, another Acorn branch. It's amazing. Thank you for reading my hub.
Obama is a liar. Of course he knows what's going on with Acorn, of course he's keeping up with it. He worked for them, and he does owe his election to them. One again, this fool of a president of our has put himself in a box--defund Acorn, lose their support; don't defund Acorn, lose the support of everyone else.
Jiberish, SEIU is not an ACORN branch. It's a union, the Service Employees International Union. The two organizations may cooperate. SEIU represents janitors, hotel maids, and the like. As I said previously ACORN's corruption is peanuts compared to the Wall Street Banksters, the parasitic Health Care Insurance Companies and the drug companies who are bribing our doctors and legislators.
Dean, I agree.
Ralph, there is and has been corruption in large corps for centuries, but SEIU is a subdivision of Acorn, it may be my next Hub. Thanks again for visiting.
Living in the Uk and having been away for a while I have to admit, not having heard of Acorn. Thanks for filling me in on this subject. It all sounds a little fishy to me.
Fishy doesn't even begin to describe it. Thanks for stopping in.
jiberish, SEIU is not a "subdivision" of ACORN. SEIU has more than 2 million members, and is a legitimate union that represents primarily low paid workers. From the interesting article on ACORN that you sent me, ACORN controls one or two local SEIU unions, one in Louisiana and another in Chicago.
Here's what Wikipedia has to say about Andy Stern and the SEIU (no mention of ACORN)
J another Obama lie?
Remember, President Obama said "No illegal aliens will be covered."
This could be entirely true, yet those who are presently illegal aliens could be covered. The Presidential Power of the pardon would make the illegal aliens legal. If the President pardons illegal aliens they would no longer be illegal aliens. This can be done with no congressional action whatsoever.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
Article. II. - The Executive Branch
Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,
and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United
States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the
executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective
Offices, and he shall have POWER TO GRANT REPRIEVES AND PARDONS FOR OFFENSES AGAINST THE UNITED STATES, except in Cases of Impeachment.
Ralph, you really should get out a little. Try this:
The Illegals renamed as residents of the US is also being considered. I have the verbage somewhere and will post the link. The health plan does state that no illegals or visitors will be covered, but it also states that anyone currently in the US will be considered as a resident. Thanks Tom.
Tom, thanks for the link. The only way to be credible is to post links and sources. Maybe then we won't be called crazy.
Morning Jib, Thanks for this hub. I am sooooo thankful their funding has been pulled. I think it's hysterical that no one on the left seems to know what is happening. Thank God they will not be taking part in the 2010 census. I'd like to see some numbers I can actually believe-unlike the quoted 46.6 million without healthcare....what a joke.
RS, the numbers will never match the actual figures, not on health care, not on the unemployement rate, the housing industry, none of it. Thanks for commin in.
The material you have covered above certainly does add to the bad smell coming from the new administration. In his interview with Stephanopolous. the President does not sound like the dynamic, in control figure he was in the casmpaign. His saying that he does not follow issues that show him and his cronies in the worst light is enough to cause us worry.
Also Nancy and the other senatorial sleazes, their purported ignorance of Acorn makes me doubt our democratic system of government.
You wonder whether electing this sort of people automatically puts you in league with thieves, fools and incompetents.
Keep digging.
Jerry, you wise man, thank you for your comments. It's what I do, I dig. With all the information I find, sometimes it's hard to make sense of it all. Thank you for visiting, you are an interesting man.
jiberish, nothing you have offered supports your erroneous claim that the SEIU is "a subdivision of ACORN." Their political aims are similar because both organizations serve the same downtrodden, exploited segment of society and have similar goals. It does not surprise me that SEIU has contributed to ACORN. But that does not mean SEIU controls ACORN or vice Versa. They are separate organizations with overlapping constituencies and similar goals. Would you say that the Gates Foundation is a subdivision of ACORN because it has contributed to ACORN? I doubt it. If ACORN does something illegal the violators should be punished to the full extent of the law. I'm not offering a defense of ACORN. As I said, I don't know much about it. I'm merely trying to help you avoid innacuracies in your comments.
Thank you Ralph, I always appreciate you input, and for keeping me on my toes.
Hey Tom, are you speechless? :)
Thanks Ralph..
Jiberish...Your Hub is right on...not only are they connected politically, but they share the same address, and are "supervised" by Tides, a Soros org...
Check out this link from an org I'm sure Ralph would trust; NPR:
http//theunionnews.blogspot.com/.../npr-exposes-acorn-seiu-connection.html - ....Larry
Maven101, Thank you for that link. Newsflash; the IRS now breaks ties with Acorn.
I live outside US, So I never heard about this guy. But I enjoy reading about this topic. nice hub
I live outside US, So I never heard about this guy. But I enjoy reading about this topic. nice information.
Larry, you are wrong. You've apparently been reading stuff put out by the Lyndon LaRouche crowd and other conspiracy theorists. I'm sure your comment would get a big laugh from Andy Stern president of SEIU which is the fastest growing union in the country with 2 million members. The SEIU and ACORN may cooperate because they serve the same constituency in many areas, but they are separate organizations. I don't know what Soros relationship with ACORN may be, but I'm quite sure that it's innacurate to say that he controls SEIU.
Prasetio30, just wait you will hear all about them soon. :)
Ralph, Ok, something you said is true, Acorn and SEIU are separate organizations, but working together with the same people. As far as Soros, he'll be included in one of my Hubs, I dislike him and he is an embarrassment to everyone from Hungary.
I saw an interview tonight with the guy in your photo who did the undercover video. He's a crackup -- watch out Michael Moore, you've got competetion!
My mother taught me if I don't have anything nice to say not to say anything. So I've basically come over to your hub (another good one, Jiberish -- keep up the great research) to say... no comment:-)!
Thank you Mom :)
The Capitalist Threat
February 1997
by George Soros
In 1997, the billionaire and international philanthropist George Soros contended that great fortunes are made to be redistributed.
Although I have made a fortune in the financial markets, I now fear that the untrammeled intensification of laissez-faire capitalism and the spread of market values into all areas of life is endangering our open and democratic society …
By taking the conditions of supply and demand as given and declaring government intervention the ultimate evil, laissez-faire ideology has effectively banished income or wealth redistribution. I can agree that all attempts at redistribution interfere with the efficiency of the market, but it does not follow that no attempt should be made … Wealth does accumulate in the hands of its owners, and if there is no mechanism for redistribution, the inequities can become intolerable. “Money is like muck, not good except it be spread.” Francis Bacon was a profound economist.
Soros is a brilliant, I have seen several interviews. I'm going to check how much he has redistributed except for Obama's campaign.
Another good hub! How can the POTUS not know ACORN was getting federal funding??
BTW, J, I noticed that we share a hobby - painting.
i worked there for a week a few years ago before i realized what a joke they are
What was it that bothered you?
jiberish, Soros has donated millions to causes that he supports. One of his biggest areas has been helping former east European communist countries convert to democratic market economies. I believe he also supports legalization of drugs and a variety of other causes. He has made billions by betting against the conventional Wall Street wisdom of the day.
Habee, seems like may are in denial!.
Halley hoops, what did you do?
Ralph, I said it before, Soros is a very intelligent man, he is a great economist, he know how to make money, but he hates America. Still working on him, will do my homework before I post anything because I know how much you like to keep me on my toes.
Why on earth would you think Soros "hates America?" Please tell us what he has done that indicates he hates America?" Just because somebody disagrees with his stand on a particular issue doesn't mean that Soros hates America. Do you think Obama hates America as well?
Ralph, he doesn't hate everything about America, but I did read somewhere where he said that Americans are spoilled, uneducated and unable to better themselves. I don't disagree with everything he says, but he too has a one world mentality.
Fox news must fix you if you do anything contrary to her political agenda. ACORN must suffer for mobilising the majority that usually sit aside to wash the minority decide an election. But ACORN should have cleaned up before taking the risk of opposing a political house that prefers to pour the content of the dirty sink on its opponent.
Pelosi says “I don’t even know what they passed,” Pelosi told The Post yesterday. “What did they do? They defunded it?” The only things the House can vote on are what she, Madame Speaker, says they can. A little rule she herself completely supported. I used to think this depth of corruption only came out of DC - until I came to CA, Pelosi's home turf. But that's CA for you, the home of innovation. Great hub jiberish.
James I'm not sure I understand you comment, but thank you for visiting.
MadamX, deny, deny, deny, the new words from the Left. I have some more interesting facts comming soon. Thank you for your comments, it's a good addition to the list.
jiberish, I hope you make sure your facts aren't "facts!"
Why Mr. Deeds, are you trying to say I distort the truth?
How about that genius Charlie Gibson, totally clueless out on his yaht. Is there any excuse for us knowing more than him about what's going on in America? The media needs to get it's collective head out.
jiberish, not exactly. My impression is that some of the sources you frequent aren't the most accurate available. Lies and half truths abound on liberal and conservative sites on the Internet. Mainstream media aren't totally reliable either, but most of them make an effort to follow journalistic ethics. This is not true of many bloggers, including yours truly. As an antidote to other sites you may wish to consider reading the NYTimes online or the paper edition as a counter point to other sources of information. :-)
Sorry to hear you don't like my hubs, most of the informations I post is from the horses' mouth or other credible sources. If you choose not to agree with them that is your choice, I never implied I personally know Obama or anyone at Acorn, but what I think is credible or reliable may not be so for others. I do appreciate your input though.
Patman: it's not that we know more, it's that they just refuse to air anything derogatory about this administration. Thank you for visiting.
jibberish, I didn't say that I don't like your Hubs. We apparently come from different ends of the political spectrum so I approach your Hubs with a certain amount of skepticism. At least we are able to discuss our differences congenially.
Thank you!
NY Times public editor Clark Hoyt apologized yesterday to Times' readers for not providing them with accurate and timely news about ACORN and for dismissing ACORN issues as politicallty motivated by conservatives.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/opinion/27pubed.
Excerpt--"Finally, on Sept. 16, nearly a week after the first video was posted, The Times took note of the controversy, under the headline, “Conservatives Draw Blood From Acorn, Favored Foe.” The article said that conservatives hoped to weaken the Obama administration by attacking its allies and appointees they viewed as leftist. The conservatives thought they had a “winning formula,” the article said, mobilizing people “to dig up dirt,” then trumpeting it on talk radio and television.
"By stressing the politics, the article irritated more readers. “A suspicious person might see an attempt to deflect criticism of Acorn by highlighting how those pesky conservatives are at it again,” said Albert Smith of Chatham, N.J.
"I thought politics was emphasized too much, at the expense of questions about an organization whose employees in city after city participated in outlandish conversations about illegal and immoral activities. (Acorn suggested some videos were doctored but fired or suspended many of the employees.)"
HUMMM.........Thanks.
I didn't mean to get side-tracked about Pelosi in my earlier comment, and not address your excellent hub directly. What I was thinking was that the democrats are doing everything in their power to distance themselves from ACORN and all their scandalous activities, hence, Pelosi's ridiculous attempt at ignorance. ACORN is as dirty as they come and it will be a major nail in the dems coffin in 2010. In fact, it already is.
In my Hub about Soros' activities, even Pelosi can't hide behind ignorance. Thank you again.
Jib,
Deny, accuse, lie! What more can I say?
Harvey, you said it all.
Great Hub! You hit the nail on the head here. The apparent lack of attention the House Speaker claims on this issue made me wonder if she was playing a PS3 when this came up for a vote. Obviously, denial is NOT just a river in Egypt. Obama's conversation with Stephanopoulis is shocking. This President should be condemning the actions of ACORN across the board and not hedging his bets with a criminal organization in case they somehow slip through this debacle. Shameful.
John, of course they will deny, that's what the guilty do. Just ask a kid if he pee'd his pants, they will look at you and deny it. Thanks you for visiting.
Indeed. What is Acorn? The only Acorn I've ever heard of is Acorn Computers, and they went out of business 11 years ago.
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Starfiend, of couse there is no Acorn! Thanks for your comment.
Information help me lot.
Mike, you're welcome?
Someday we will have a government that does not funnel money to corrupt organizations. /dream
Not this administration!
Very good blog! It is amazing how Congress, especially the democrats, tend to get amnesia when a scandal is brought out on one of their supporters! Obama was all for Acorn when he was campaining, they were his biggest supporter by the way! Suddenly since they have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar he doesn't seem to know what anyone is talking about! Amazing!
The denial factor seems to work very well in DC these days. Thank you for stopping in. Welcome to Hub!
Jiberish, great hub. Judging by the comments, this is a great hub. Did you have to pay Mr. Deeds to comment so often on this hub? Why is it that wherever he has commented there is great controversy. I happen to know Deeds is a very good man. And he's very intelligent. He does know a lot about unions, he worked for GM in their front office. But I know that Seiu has some of the same management as ACORN. Beck says SEIU's director is a man by the name of Sterns and he sits before the president once a week in the White House. Sterns has an ACORN connection. Sieu and ACORN have an nterlocking directorate with each other. Nice comments, though including that of Ralph Deeds. I happen to know Mr. Deeds is a top notch guy for a semi-liberal and I love it when he comments on my hubs. The scores soar. Every hub should have some controversy because not all issues are cut and dried as this one. Don White
Thank you Don for your rich comment. I agree Deeds is amazingly intelligent on some topics, and he does make for a good debate. He keeps me on my toes, and I appreciate this of him. Thank you for visiting, it's an honor.
Great Hub with good information. You presented an objective case on Acorn. I personally stand on the left of everyone else. Acorn has been this liberal "boogie man" that conservatives point to as an example of corruption and deception. People have cited and accused them of voter registration fraud and with this lastest case of fake pimp and hooker getting questionable advice, it seems the evidence is mounting. I say fine. Let the states, congress and law enforcement do their jobs and punish the wrong doers. But people don't tout this organization as "anti-christ like" without understanding what they do or what they are all about. We've had 8 yrs worth of corruption, lies, deceit, cronyism. and scandal under republican rule, and no one is saying on the left that all republicans and conservatives have these traits.
Mel, Acorn has some affiliates that have done some good, but in general they have run amuk. They have been corrupted by greed and deceptive leaders. They have been around and played a minimal role in the Clinton eara, but were forces against Bush. They are now in the news because some have started to connect the dots, and it's not looking so good. Thank you for visiting.
"amok" is how I learned it :-)
Don, you're ruining my reputation! I'm not a semi-liberal. I'm a full fledged liberal who believes in protecting our democratic free enterprise system from self-destructing.
Andy Stern is president of SEIU which is the largest union in the country. Until someone can prove otherwise I'll continue to believe that SEIU and ACORN are separate organizations with some common goals and some overlaps in a couple of local unions.
SEIU is a union which represents janitors and other low paid workers in collective bargaining negotiations. I'm not an expert on ACORN, but the organization does not engage in collective bargaining with employers. My understanding is that it engages in political activity and inner city organizing and voter registration and provides services to poor people in inner cities. They have received government funding for providing various services. This funding has now been cut off because of credible accusations of improper and illegal activities by some of its representatives..
Ralph, I love you, but the funding was not cut off for All of Acorn, and though they started out with worthy causes, it has gone amok. :) You don't have to, but you can follow the crumb trail in my Soros series.
I wrote a hub on acorn as well. Great Hub! I really enjoy your hubs.
Thank you Dr, I enjoy yours too!
ACORN has been accused of many things, and it seems to me that when false voter records were brought to the attention of local ACORN leaders, for the most part it was ACORN that blew the whistle and withdrew them.
ACORN registers voters, mostly poor and under-served citizens, and so that infuriates Conservatives who, it seems to me, would rather deny people the right to vote unless they can be assured voters will vote Republican. After all, who was it who went after homeless voters being registered here in the MidWest? Republicans, that's who!
If you lose your home, does that disenfranchise your right to vote? Seems awfully 1780's to me.
I know a lot of people on the RIGHT believe the churned over and highly inbred stories circulating about ACORN, and there are some activities I would like to see investigated, but to assume guilt based upon biased reporting and outright lies accepted as truth that ACORN is some huge conspiracy orchestrated by Obama is about a stupid as saying that George Bush went to war in Iraq simply to vindicate his father's inability to bring down Saddam Hussein. I may be a Liberal, but even I didn't believe that garbage!
Get off your biased podiums and dig past the pundits, and maybe you'll find the sky isn't falling after all.
Unabashed Liberal Jake from Chicago.
Unabashed, too bad about the Olympics! You want to know more, I will not argue with you here. Please read the series Soros: Obama's puppeteer, I have made a bread crumb trail of Acorn, and will continue to do so until the truth is revealed. Thank you for your visit, I appreciate any comment from the other side.
Hmm about time they finally did something right. Isn't it just amazing what is coming to light after the election and is no longer buried?
Isabellas, there is much yet buried, but it will some to light, inch by inch. Thank you for stopping in!
The Truth will set us Free. Acorn exposed is a good thing!:)
JDub13, thank you. Tonight, 9/2/09, Fox did a special on Acorn, with Wade, it was very revealing. If anyone still has a doubt they should go back and at least educate themselves.
Isn't it great that there is so much on the Agenda of Politicians that things get voted on and passed or failed with little understanding of what is being voted on?
Why read when you can get a summary on twitter? Thank you for visiting.
Well, I believe that if ACORN or any other organization did illegal things they should be investigated, and if evidence is found that points to guilt, prosecuted. That includes organizations such as some of those that already have had black-eyes, such as Blackwater and others.
I remember also that some people with local GOP groups were either guilty of or suspected of jamming phone lines, and some companies were named as using fake letterheads to send out false information.
This is not how a Democracy works! In order for people to make informed decisions, correct, impartial info needs to sent out, not false stories. That goes for both major parties and also independent parties.
I treasure the truth more than I do ideology. Thanks!
Unabashed, Acorn's work is not limited to the Obama administration, they also worked closely with the Clintons, and others on the Hill. Thank you for stopping in.
Thanks Deeds, he looks to be an interesting hubber to watch.
Ralph, corruption never makes me happy. I am wondering why they need the services of Acorn, can those people not negotiate with Hud directly, or the banks? Anyway thanks for the link. By the way I'm sure there are some who work for Acorn are really trying to do the right thing, but does the good outway the bad?
"The Acorn Standard" in The Nation
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20091102/scahill
The nonpartisan Project on Government Oversight and Reform recently revealed that the top 100 government contractors made nearly $300 billion from federal contracts in 2007 alone. Since 1995 these same contractors have been involved with 676 cases of "misconduct" and paid $26 billion in fines to settle cases stemming from fraud, waste or abuse. Fines and other penalties, it seems, are simply the stunningly small price of doing government business.
Where is the de-fund Blackwater Act?
Blackwater
Jeremy Scahill: Democrats joined Republicans in voting to "Defund ACORN" yet have done nothing to stop Blackwater's taxpayer-funded crusade in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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The ACORN Standard
War Profiteering
Jeremy Scahill: A growing number of lawmakers are starting to ask: if ACORN's federal funding should be under intense scrutiny, why aren't the billions of dollars going to out-of-control contractors being regulated?
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An ACORN Amendment for Pfizer
House
Jeremy Scahill: Representative Betty McCollum's "ACORN Act" would prevent the government from doing business with corporations that have been found guilty of felonies.
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Where is the Defund Blackwater Act?
Blackwater
Jeremy Scahill: Democrats joined Republicans in voting to "Defund ACORN" yet have done nothing to stop Blackwater's taxpayer-funded crusade in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Take the case of the top three war contractors, Lockheed Martin, Boeing and Northrop Grumman. These companies have engaged in 108 instances of misconduct since 1995 and have paid fines or settlements totaling nearly $3 billion. In 2007 they won some $77 billion in federal contracts. Or consider pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, which in September paid $2.3 billion to settle a slew of criminal and civil cases, including Medicaid fraud. According to the Justice Department, this was "the largest healthcare fraud settlement" in its history. Yet Pfizer made more than $40 billion in profits last year and won $73 million in federal contracts in 2007; it continues to do robust business with the government. Not bad for a "corporate felon."
Unfortunately, neither Pfizer nor the largest US military contractors are targets of significant Congressional action. Instead it's ACORN, a community organization that trains and advocates for poor and working-class Americans. Over the past fifteen years, ACORN has received just $53 million in federal funds, much of it for low-income housing. Despite--or perhaps because of--its efforts to empower some 500,000 member families, ACORN was the subject of a sting video produced by a right-wing activist that featured a fake pimp and prostitute seeking tax advice. The group swiftly fired the handful of employees who were entrapped, but that didn't put an end to the storm. Fox News aired the video repeatedly, and right-wing astroturf operative Rick Berman set up a Rotten ACORN website. The campaign was wildly successful. In mid-September all but seventy-five House Democrats and seven senators voted with their Republican colleagues to bar the group from receiving federal funds.
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Poor Acorn, and you compare them to contractors, apparently you have not read any of my other hubs, so I'm not going to into detail hear except to say that Stern said it himself in an interview with Greta, that they are in it for the money.
Ralph you are aware that the CRA forces banks to give money to organizations like ACORN, right? If they don't make enough loans to people who can't pay them back, they can give to ACORN and it's like no harm, no foul. If they fail to do either they can get their interstate branches shut down, denial of new interstate branches, etc. Nothing like a little Mafioso action to show us who the real bad guys are.
Is it any wonder ACORN is as corrupt as it is?
Sorry I have to make a correction it was Wade not Stern.
Ledefen, I apreciate your visit, in my 3 part series on Soros, I go into detail about Acorn and it's affilliates, I also have a little more about their background that I will soon write about.
I'll have to look at it. For the life of me, I just don't get Soros. Unless he's a closet fascist, then things start to make a bit more sense. After all one of the great allures of fascism during the 1930's was that it "saved Europe from Communism". Oops. People don't always know what they think they do. Boy, did they drop the ball when it came to fascism.
Ledefen, There is a 'nudge' towards unknow territory. It will take a few years but they will take us there.
Nah, what some people see as a nudge is just your average American's way of letting people talk crap. It won't be too much longer before we have another Watergate or something. We're actually not too far away from where we were in 1973 or so.
I mean more and more people are getting the idea that Green is the new Red. Or at least that human caused global warming is bunk. Obama and his Communist buddies are just getting enough rope to hang themselves with, wait and see.
I sure hope you're right.
someonewhoknows Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago
Very well done research "J" I'll say one thing - you sure know how to find out out where the acorns are - just like a squirl knows winters coming and all us squirly people need to gather all the "nuts" we can for the winter months ahead.
How do you like your nuts? Roasted or boiled in oil?
I like mine boiled in oil but they can be a little greasy ,but no more greasy than a dirty politician!